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Tourer News 

Gas Guzzlers clobbered by Gordon Brown's 4x4 road tax ?

Talking to a number of 4x4 owners recently, there seems to be a good deal of misunderstanding around the so called 4x4 tax and how it applies to them. 4x4 owners are concerned that their road tax will be £300 this year and £400 next year, whilst the trade-in values of their Chelsea Tractors look set to plummet !. 

Please read on, because in most cases this tax is not going to affect you and can be avoided, whilst your residual values could improve...

Despite what the picture might suggest - Gordon Brown doesn't like 4x4's and has set out in his last two budgets to penalise owners of these monstrous, polluting, gas guzzlers.  All very laudable , but the problem is that these Geist caravans are heavy brutes, with anything larger than the 485 model, needing something heavier than a Mondeo to tow them safely. 

Lets start by clearing up who this tax applies to.  The Category 'G' band was introduced in March '06 for new cars with CO2 emissions over 225g/km. If your car was registered before March '06, you will never pay the higher tax, with most 4x4's staying in the Category 'F' band. (£195 per year).

So that is good news if you have a two or more year old 4x4, but what if you want, or need to buy a new car ?. As an example, I have listed three very capable 4x4 tow cars that have emissions under the Category 'G' 225g/km:
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KIA Sorrento - Caravan Club Towcar of the year. The Diesel version with a manual gearbox has emissions of 209g/km (beware the auto version is 228g/km)

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Honda CRV 2.2 – CTDI diesel. 173 g/km (Category 'E'  £160 per year).

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Suzuki  Grand Vitara (5 door) 1.9 DDiS 205 g/km

So unless for you, like our saviour Mr Brown - nothing less than a Range Rover will do (374 g/km). Either be prepared to dig deep each year or try to find a low mileage, two year old model and hope the owner does not realise what they have got !.

The LMC Innovan.

Not really Geist specific news, but for those who like the quirky simplicity of the T@B . LMC may have an equally stylish, but much more practical answer ? And no need to worry about the door being on the wrong side.

From a rough translation of the LMC website, this caravan appears to have air suspension and is able to adjust its ride height to suit the road conditions and to make towing at autobahn speeds, much safer. 

Like a town bus, the caravan is able to kneel when you arrive on site, lowering the rear door from 28cm to 8cm. The innovan won caravan of the year in Germany this year.

 

Geist Please Import this Caravan,  it is a winner  and the pull-out TV is superb.

(Golf off of concrete on the other hand, is an entirely different matter)

 

 

Geist Direct 

Geist have taken the unprecedented step of selling their caravans and motorhomes direct via trade shows and the internet. By largely cutting out the dealer network, Geist have been able to knock thousands of pounds off the list price of their tourer range, passing the saving on to you.

This is clearly very good news for new buyers, as these prices are very competitive when compared to similar products supplied through a dealer network.  However, this advantage is partly negated if you have a trade-in, as Geist will have to pass your old caravan back into the dealer network and will consequently pay little over 'bottom book' (Glasses Guide) for your old tourer. 

For existing owners, this is not quite such good news.  This reduction in list price will trigger a similar reduction in the residual value of your tourer.  However, if you decide to trade in your existing Geist against a new Geist, these changes should largely balance out. You will however need to attend a trade show or visit one of Geist's few remaining dealers to view your prospective purchase. 

Paddy Doherty, director of Geist Vehicle Leisure, said he was finding a warm welcome for Geist's new direct sales operation. "Direct sales will give customers a major financial benefit, and with the support network we're putting in place, no Geist owner will be far from proper service support."

So is this a good thing or a bad thing ?. The temptation is to say that this is a bad thing, but that would be to ignore the power of the internet. How many people reading this, bought Christmas presents on the internet this year ?. How many more cannot get through the week, without a quick peek on Ebay. 

I have had many conversations with caravan owners who relayed the story of popping down the local caravan dealer for some Elsan Blue and coming back with a new caravan !.  However, many of us will see the caravan we like at the local dealer, then trawl the internet to find someone else selling it cheaper, even if that means driving for 4 hours to collect.  The Internet has taught us that there is almost always a better deal out there and that it doesn't take long on Google to find it !... The bottom line is that we pay around 15% extra for the privilege of buying via a local dealer.  

So much good information and high quality images are available on the internet, that we can shortlist our preferred caravans without leaving the comfort of the armchair. Only then do we need to venture out to kick the tyres and fiddle with the taps.

I believe that Geist are ahead of the competition and whilst I  am uncomfortable about the impact on my local dealer (the wonderful Southern Caravans) this is part of the inevitable march of technology and e-commerce.  Only time will tell, but I can see this becoming the norm, rather than the exception. 

Don't believe it ?... see how many £12k plus caravans are sold on Ebay every day and how many dealers are now using this as a route to market.

The January editions of Caravan Magazine and the Camping and Caravanning Club magazine, both feature a review of the Geist 520DL. 

As both reviews were authored by David Serpell, they are summarised as one.

The Caravan tested was a pre-production version of the DL520, so a few imperfections were due to be corrected in the production version. Never the less, the layout, comfort and build quality were all commended. 

Overall the DL520 scored a very respectable 7/10 for practicality and 8/10 for value.

The November edition of Practical Caravan Magazine reviews the 2005 Geist tourer range.

The review concludes that the Geist brand has created quite a stir, since its launch in the summer of 2003. Recognising the relative youth of the LV range, changes to the 2005 models have been largely cosmetic.

The new Dethleffs built DL520 is commended for its bright, modern furniture and solid crafted feel, but criticised for its overall weight. 

The November edition of Practical Caravan is available from News agents now.

Geist Owners comment: Many of the reviews in the trade press commend the Geist's Built-from-Girders build quality, then go on to criticise the overall weight of the tourers. It is precisely because of the solid build quality that these tourers are heavy. Yes - you will need a large estate car, people carrier or 4x4 to tow the larger Geist's. However, if you are looking for a dependable tourer, then you may consider this a price worth paying.

The October edition of Caravan Magazine reviews the 2005 Geist tourer range.

The review of the 2005 tourer's, details the largely cosmetic changes made to the LV range and the two brand new Dethleffs built DL tourers. 

There is also an interview with Geist's managing director - Paddy Doherty.

Camping and Caravanning Club - review of the 2005 Geist 550

The Camping and Caravanning clubs review of the LV550 heaps praise on the Geist's Germanic build quality. Described as feeling almost amour plated, the construction of body-shell and quality of the internal joinery is of the highest standards. 

The review recognised that this Made-In-Germany-From-Girders build quality, resulted in a heavy caravan that requires an equally heavy towcar.

Clean and sleek - the Geist is unashamedly aimed at the upper market. 

Caravan Club Magazine - review of Geist LV550

The Caravan Clubs review of the LV550 made much of the quality of German caravans, but recognised that the interiors are not to everyone's taste. The Geist provides the best of both worlds by assembling a very British interior into one of those indestructible German body-shells. 

The verdict drawn by the review was that the LV550 is a big, strong, dependable prop forward of a thing that won't have sand kicked in its face by anybody - and film star looks, too. Stuffed with clever ideas to make life easier.

Caravan Life - review of Geist LV485

Caravan Life's review of the LV485 accurately points out that despite being manufactured by LMC, this is not an existing German model that has been re-badged. This is very much a caravan designed specifically for the UK market and tastes.  

Whilst the article finds much to like about the LV485 - particular praise is given to the caravans end washroom and build quality - 'compared to some home-grown products, the Geist feels almost over-engineered' 

The article concludes that 'on this showing, it looks like there's a new force to be reckoned with'.

The July issue of Caravan Life is available in newsagents now. For more information please visit  Caravan Life Magazine 

Practical Caravan group test of Geist LV535.

The April 2004 issue of Practical Caravan magazine reviews the LV535 against the Fleetwood Sonata and Avondale Bianco 55. These three caravans each have a slightly continental feel and the popular side dinette, end washroom layout. 

Described as a leviathan in terms of build quality and physical weight, the LV535 scored top marks for its Lounge, Kitchen and Washroom, but was marked down for its bunk beds, handbrake and the necessity to own a weighty tow car. 

To obtain a back issue of the April edition, telephone Practical Caravan on: 01235 534323

Earls Court - Caravan & Outdoor Leisure Show - November 2003.

The Caravan & Outdoor Leisure Show at Earls Court was for many, the first chance to view the LV485, LV535 & LV550  models. 

LV 485: a two berth with two long beds at the front and a rear washroom.

LV535: a four berth with two long beds at the front , side dinette and a rear washroom.

LV550: a four berth with front dinette and fixed rear double bed.

Model Body Length Overall Length Unladen weight (MIRO) Maximum weight (MTPLM) Payload
LV485 4.88m 6.86m 1193 1400kg 207
LV535 5.38m 7.36m 1293 1500kg 207
LV550 5.40m 7.41m 1313 1500kg 187

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Last modified: February 11, 2006